Modernist theologian, who claims to support dialogic theology, then claims traditionalism is "a crude appropriation of Christianity"

Theologians Körtner and Tück advocate for more "public theology"

Viennese theologians in podcast "This Side of Eden": Theology thrives on practical, ecclesiastical practice of faith - Tück: Sharp criticism of neo-integralism


Traditionalists really loved being lectured to by a Protestant and a Modernist


The two Viennese theologians, Ulrich Körtner (Protestant) and Jan-Heiner Tück (Catholic), have called for more "public theology." "We must dare to speak about God anew—not just about images of God or ideas about God, but truly speak about God. And this requires a newly thought-out, revelation-theologically grounded discourse about God—also in ecumenical dialogue," said Körtner in a new episode of the theology podcast "This Side of Eden." In the podcast, Tück and Körtner debate the question "How do we speak of God today?" They argue that there is a danger of reducing Christianity to ethical questions and thus making it superfluous. Public theology must make it clear that it is more than a "water heater" for ethical questions.

Public theology could, for example, begin with questions of the cross, in which the "world's need for redemption" becomes particularly visible. This perspective could bring theology into debates – as could the perspective of redemption, which is not limited to worldly matters but extends beyond mere human feasibility, according to Körtner.

In this context, the two also reiterated their thesis of the "ecclesiality of theology," with which they had sparked a debate almost two years ago. Körtner explained that this meant that theology needed a "participant perspective." "If the Church were no longer to exist, then theology as we know it would no longer exist," but would be absorbed into religious studies, said the Protestant theologian, who retired in June after more than 30 years at the University of Vienna.

The Catholic theologian Tück added that 

the Church is ultimately not only a community of tradition and confession, but also a "community of reading and interpretation" – 

Cathcon: if I wanted a "community of reading and interpretation", I would join a library or enrol at a university.

that is, "the content that theology deals with is also received through the Church." To counter this with the accusation that one wants to "go back behind Vatican II" is "truly malicious," Tück said: "Because we both stand, albeit in different ways, for theologies that are dialogic. We didn't want to build a bastion. Quite the opposite."

Cathcon:  Modernism thrives in academic towers, bastions against divine realities

Where there are indeed current dangers of a bastion forming, Tück explained, is the debate about neo-integralism, including in Austria. 

This represents a "crude appropriation of Christianity" that is "highly problematic from a theological perspective." 

"This implicitly regresses to the Second Vatican Council—toward Catholic concepts of the state, such as those still advocated by the Society of St. Pius X. And this is precisely where one must clearly counter this: At the Council, the Church explicitly committed itself to modern standards of freedom of religion and conscience—and justified this on the basis of revelation theology. Therefore, today it can no longer be a question of designing a new Catholic statehood that serves the Church itself. That would not only be theologically questionable, but would also create new ecumenical problems."

The podcast "This Side of Eden" is a project launched in 2021 by the state theological faculties in Austria and South Tyrol, as well as the Catholic Theological University of Linz. Over 80 episodes have since been released.


Thus proving, once and for all, that modernism is not Catholicism, not even a crude approximation of the substance of it. 

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