Saturday, March 16, 2013

Did Pope Francis deliberately try to sabotage the Latin Mass in his own Diocese?

Comment on my earlier post. Thank you to the kind reader for this information.

Fr. Dotro was a well-trained liturgist? The second article linked below says that he botched the Mass, used the Novus (dis)Ordo calendar, had laymen and women reading the readings in the vernacular, and saw attendance drop from ~100 to 3. No mention of Bergoglio on the Argentinian Una Voce site. This Argentinian Juventutem webpage says: "I agree with Wanderer that Cardinal Bergoglio—and with him, all those follower him—has resisted the Pope, astutely and firmly opposing the difusion of the Traditional Mass in his Archdiocese, as we have already said in a previous post." [linked below] It refers to this article,which says (italics in original): "We are told that an Episcopal Vicar who later became Bishop of a provincial capital south of Buenos Aires spoke smilingly: "Bergoglio has a plan to boycott the Motu Proprio without Rome realizing.


To which I add my own translation of the key last part of the final article- which starts with the botched Modus Celebrandi of Father Dotro.   They call him Sacha Dotro (as a play on sacerdotus)  Sacha means in the Incan language "Incomplete, Pseudo, False, Partial"-  he has clearly generated much  unhappiness. No wonder, he said the Latin Mass was "a Streetcar against modern means of transportation."

"In October 2007, the Cardinal forbade the continuation of the Extraordinary Form in the Sacred Heart Chapel despite the then priest Carlos White establishing at the request of the parishioners (Incidentally, Father Carlos has left the Archdiocese and is now ministering 2000 Km of Buenos Aires). When we know positively that there are priests who have been reprimanded and punished for Masses only held privately with the assistance of a few friends, then it was difficult not to come to a more reasonable conclusion: there is a plan, and it is fulfilled in such a way that the Gregorian Mass remains proscribed just as much or more than before July 7 2007. Pray that the authority of the Pope comes to the aid of the faithful of this Archdiocese, to restore justice!"

 Their Archbishop and Diocesan ordinary is now Pope!


Geremia said...

They key word: "deliberately"

Who knows if it was deliberate, but out of all the Buonos Aires priests, there has to be at least one who's more competent.

Faby said...

Una vez, a la salida de una re-inauguración de la iglesia San Miguel Arcángel, le pregunté a Bergoglio: "Padre, por qué no se dan más misas en latín en buenos Aires"? Pensó un momento y respondió: "Si quiere escuchar misa en otra lengua, pues vaya a la iglesia maronita, que la recitan en arameo". No estuvo mal, pero es prueba evidente -aparte de su malísima pronunciación del latín- de que los jesuitas no quieren saber nada con la tradición. Please use google translator spanish to english many thanks. This is true.

Faby said...

Monseñor Musto, ya fallecido y gran amigo del barrio, era compañero de Bergoglio en el seminario. Una vez, caminando y conversando por la calle, me contó que cuando hacían la carrera sacerdotal todos sus compañeros lo llamaban "El Apóstata". De esto doy Fe y testimonio. Como sabrán, Apóstata -por más que se diga en chiste- no es un buen mote para alguien que va a ser sacerdote!
saludos,fbl (fabyluis)

ChrisG said...

Do you mean Bergoglio was called "The Apostate"? Many thanks for both these comments.

Geremia said...

¿Cuándo le preguntaste esto, Faby?

Faby said...

Eso se lo pregunté a la salida de la re-inauguración de la Iglesia de San Miguel Arcángel, Bartolomé Mitre y Suipacha, hace un par de años no recuerdo bien... hará 2 o 3 años 4 tal vez? En pleno auge de la misa Tradicional, que en buenos Aires la daba Ricardo y otro Ricardo en la iglesia del Carmen...

Faby said...

Gillibrand, es verdad, lo juro por mi hijo, un compañero de seminario ya muerto Monseñor Musto me reveló esta "broma" que le hacían a Bergoglio diciéndole "El Apóstata"... doy fe y testimonio.