Mass of the Spirit of Vatican II

Four years after the new Mass was published, this on German TV.

The Church of the Red Dot, rather than the Cross.

Entrance. Female servers already.


Liturgical dancing


Sermon in praise of the Council.
Bidding prayers manipulating the will of God.



Consecration- they do genuflect.


The dancers are back- Sing to the Lord a new song.


The priest is now eighty-two years old and shares my birthday. The book he wrote about the Red Dot Church is now worth 1.48 euro on Amazon. He made an enormous contribution not to the propagation of the Gospel of Christ, but to the Gospel of Psychology, specialising in a technique called TZI.

I quote from the following paper.

He practically applied the concept of topic-centered interaction (TZI), (Cathcon- Christ Centred Interaction would help rather better) intended to help to get interactional processes up and running, and intensify and steer them, in order to ensure “living learning.”The topic-centered element made it possible to introduce the specific concerns of particular professional groups or learning situations into the group dynamic process. Moreover, TZI could not only be deployed in “laboratory conditions,” but also in the “natural social field,” that is, in the participants’ normal social environment. This also made the “back home situation” easier, enabling people to carry across that which had been learned into normal everyday professional or private life. Within church circles, TZI was also considered to possess another positive characteristic: It was expressly conceived as “reducing fear.” It thus countered the danger, often lamented in relation to group dynamic methods, that neuroses or other psychological problems could be, as it were, artificially generated through the dynamics of the interaction. Both diocesan and religious order priests who had participated in group dynamic TZI courses, described “practice in immediacy” as one of their most important learning experiences. It was only through group therapeutic work that they rediscovered the principle that Christian witness can only occur on the basis of “that which one has experienced oneself ”; only in this way can the preaching of the faith be realistic. Through work in small groups or the participation of religious superiors in courses, many religious-order priests felt that via TZI, issues of living together in a community, long “hidden” under rituals grown overly formal, took on new force “in a new guise and with new dynamism.” According to P. Karl Siepen, CSsR, the general secretary of the association of German religious superiors, in 1972, there were “sometimes hysterical expectations” about the possible value of group dynamic approaches to a reform of life in holy orders (Cathcon note also the General Secretary from 1962 to 1989 of the German Catholic Mission Council- the years that the locusts have eaten as far as mission is concerned). The concept of topic-centered interaction was, however, also deployed in many church educational institutions. Some priests adopted this “mental attitude” in their daily work in order to break away from “thinking in terms of power and calculating speech” and thus from communicative postures that they increasingly perceived as a hindrance to productive parish work. “What you are doing is truly Christian.” The newspaper of the bishopric of Munster quoted the words of priest Bernhard Honsel from Ibbenbueren, who had regularly used TZI since 1974 in group work on the initiative of a woman working as a religious educator (Religionspaedagogin) in the community, and indeed particularly in the pastoral conference of the Pfarrverband (a loose association of several parishes).48 Honsel had first initiated education in the methods of group dynamics in 1970, in which, along with a few lay people, Catholic priests and a lay theologian, five Protestant priests, and deacons from the town of Ibbenbueren took part.

The director of music is still in post (as of one year ago). The wretches turned the Church into a psychological laboratory, experimenting on souls rather than saving them.

The parish website carries today this article in German translation. A nun who compares Che to Christ. We are living in the last years of the old revolutionaries. They are without honour and have no inheritance.