Monday, February 18, 2013

SSPX given deadline by Head of CDF to submit by this Friday

Archbishop Müller, as prefect of the CDF signed the letter on the 8th January containing an ultimatum of 22 February

Rome (KAP) The "Society of St. Pius X"(SSPX), according to unofficial information, have been given only until Saturday for reconciliation with Rome. The most recent demand for a reply to the Vatican's offer set a deadline of the 22nd February, the Italian Vatican journalist Andrea Tornielli wrote in his blog (Monday). If the SSPX gave their approval a personal prelature for the SSPX could be erected on the same date.

The Catholic Church celebrates on the 22nd  February the "Chair of Peter". It commemorates the adoption of the Roman bishopric by the Apostle Peter and to his appointment to the office of leadership. Pope Benedict XVI who has very much driven forward agreement with the traditionalist Society who is separated from Rome, leaves office on 28 February.

Up to now it was known that the CDF had again urged the Superior General of the SSPX, Bernard Fellay to give a response at the beginning of a response. However Tornielli writes, citing French observers, including that the letter signed by Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller acting as prefect dated 8th January contains an ultimatum date of 22nd February.

If by then, no binding position of the SSPX arrives, Rome could possibly try to persuade individual members of the SSPX to return to communion with the Pope, according to Tornielli referring to French media.

The SSPX was created in 1969 in rejection of the reforms of the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965). Contentious issues are especially liturgy, ecumenism and religious freedom. The founder of the SSPX, the French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (1905-1991) made the break with Rome by conducting the ordination of bishops in 1988 which was not allowed by Rome.

In an effort to reach agreement, Benedict XVI in 2007 re-permitted the sole form of Mass prior to the Council. In 2009, he lifted the excommunication against the four bishops consecrated by Lefebvre.
This was followed by one and a half years of dialogue between experts from the Vatican and the SSPX.

In September 2011 the Vatican put to the SSPX a "preamble" for signature that includes a commitment to the full magisterium. After an answer from Fellay in April 2012 and a debate in the Vatican Fellay received the request to clarify open questions.



Alan Aversa said...

Would it necessarily be a personal prelature?

Nick said...

There is more recent news than that.
Apparently some are saying there could be a good surprise:

But it almost seems too short of a time frame to get anything big accomplished.

Catholic Mission said...

Tuesday, April 2, 2013

The Grand Secret : Vatican Council II says all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Protestants etc are lost

Vatican Council II says all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims and Protestants are lost but this is a secret in the Church and no one is talking about it.

Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation. We cannot name any one saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) tc for them to be known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.

If you keep the text of Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 before you Vatican Council II is saying all need to convert into the Catholic Church.All need to be formal, visible members of the Catholic Church.Visible Catholic Faith and the baptism of water is needed.Outside the Church there is no salvation.

Vatican Council II is traditional on other religions and salvation.It is in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

It is in agreement with the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX), the St.Benedict Centers,USA,the popes, Church Councils,saints and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846,845,1257).

While those saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) are only possibilities which we accept, these cases are not exceptions to AG 7 and LG 14. They are not exceptions since they are known only to God.They are not known to us in 2013.We cannot see these persons who are now in Heaven.

We cannot name anyone saved with the baptism of desire or elements of sanctification (LG 8).We personally do not know any exceptions, since those who are dead are not visible to us.

Yet for many Catholics, those saved in imperfect communion with the Church (UR), seeds of the Word etc are visible and known.So Vatican Council II for them is a break with the past.

No where in Nostra Aetate is it said that non Catholics do not have to convert in their religion or that they are saved in general in their religion.We cannot name any 'good and holy '(NA) non Catholic, who is saved and is an exception to all needing 'faith and baptism' in 2013 to go to Heaven and avoid the fires of Hell.

Vatican Council II is traditional. This is a grand secret.
-Lionel Andrades