Another attack from Rome on the SSPX
Not the Protestants, but the SSPX are for him "so to speak in schism"
With the appointment of the Regensburg heretic Bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Benedict XVI gave a clear signal: The much heralded reform of the reform was a ruse to suck the Catholics in. The Pope places the most important posts in paleo-liberal hands.
The prop for the Faith of the Pope, heretic-Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, has again taken pot shots at the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X. He spoke to Ingo Brüggenjürgen, the chief editor of the paleo-liberal chief journalist of the Cologne Cathedral radio.
Schmidbauer or Schmidburger
Brüggenjürgen posed a question about the SSPX, which made clear his total ignorance . There had been "from Schmidbauer" "harsh words " in an interview - he embarrassed himself:
"Do you want to comment on something like that?"
There is no Schmidbauer in the SSPX. It is also mysterious which "harsh words" Brüggenjürgen was referring to. Maybe he was talking about a recent interview with Father Franz Schmidberger -. mathematician and German District Superior of the SSPX In this the cleric referred to and with great respect the evil heresies of Mons. Müller in an interview
What is "that"?
Mons. Mueller evidently does not understand video. After a short pause he still rattles on. Everybody who reads "that" could imagine how far "that" is from reality, he said at random. He wanted to comment on "that" "with the same words:" "I believe it not worth the effort. "
Father Schmidberger or other of his ilk were not the judge in matters of faith - he defended his heresies.
Heretic about heretic
The Archbishop assumed that the SSPX allegedly "had" distanced themselves from the church. They sit even "so to speak, in the glass house of schism." On 11 October 2011, Mons. Müller had called Protestants a part of the Church even though they reject Papal and episcopal office as well as the Seven Sacraments and support the abortion of childen and the marriage of homosexuals.
He defends his own career
Finally the Careerist criticised the criticism of the SSPX of his promotion: "If the Holy Father chooses his immediate staff for the Dicasteries, then I believe that it does not befit such people to criticize the Pope's decision."
Cathcon- I cannot understand what the Archbishop thinks he is trying to achieve.
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Comments
Bishop Raffaello Martinelli of Frascati supports SSPX on other religions and opposes Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, Cardinal Kurt Koch and Archbishop Augustine Di Noia
Pope John Paul II’s Notification on the Jesuit priest Jacques Dupuis is in accord with the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) position on other religions including Judaism. Ladaria, Koch and Di Noia have in public opposed the Notification with respect to Judaism.
The Italian diocesan Bishop Mons Raffaelo Martinelli who has worked at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican agrees with the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) position on other religions. He is saying that non Catholics religions are not paths to salvation and their members are objectively oriented into the Catholic Church. This is expressed in his pamphlets available in Rome and on the internet.
Pope John Paul II was in agreement with the SSPX position on other religions. Inter religious dialogue for him was part of Catholic Mission.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican Notification during the pontificate of Pope John Paul II is in accord with the SSPX : other religions are not paths to salvation and their members are oriented to the Catholic Church
Mons. Raffaello Martinelli. the Bishop of Frascati, Italy in an apologetical pamphlet has said that non Catholic religions have deficiencies, errors and superstition (Dominus Iesus) and that non Catholics are objectively oriented towards the Catholic Church (CDF ,Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis S.J 2011).
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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/09/bishop-raffaello-martinelli-of-frascati.html
The CDF, Notification says according to Catholic doctrine,' the followers of other religions are oriented to the Church and are all called to become part of her' and 'it must be firmly believed that the Church is sign and instrument of salvation for all people. It is contrary to the Catholic faith to consider the different religions of the world as ways of salvation complementary to the Church.'
The Bishop of Frascati says 'even those who do not actually belong to the visible Church, they are objectively oriented towards her' then he adds that ‘they are part of that wider Church known only by God. '
The Notification on the Jesuit priest was in agreement with Dominus Iesus 20 which indicated that even though Jesus died for all, for salvation it was necessary that all enter the Church. The Church was necessary for salvation. This is the message of Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II that all need faith and baptism.
The Notification is also in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors.
It is accord with the St.Robert Bellarmine interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) are not exceptions to the dogma. We do not know any such case in the present times.
The baptism of desire is not an exception to the dogma. So contrary to the leftist media propaganda, whether Fr. Leonard Feeney supported or opposed the baptism of desire, it is irrelevant. It is irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation, being there in only the Catholic Church. Similarly those who have not had the Gospel preached to them through no fault of their own (invincible ignorance) are irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma.This was the error of Cardinal Richard Cushing , the Archbishop of Boston.
The influence of the Richard Cushing error however can be seen in the Notification. Though basically the Notification is saying that non Catholic religions are not paths to salvation and their members need to objectively enter the Catholic Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell (for salvation).
The style and contents of the leaflets are confusing. There is no new Revelation but the bishop is using the new 'doctrine' of the visible dead. He assumes that we know the dead saved. Since he assumes that the dead saved in invincible ignorance etc are known to us Lumen Gentium 16, for him, could be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in its traditional understanding.LG 16 would be a break from tradition and without the hermeneutic of continuity.
Having established the 'new doctrine', the 'new fact' of being able to see the dead on earth, conclusions are made which are not Catholic teachings.
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1. Since we can see the dead saved, there is salvation outside the church for them. So the defined dogma on salvation it is concluded, became obsolete.
2. Since there is salvation outside the Church it means those who are not baptised can be saved. So there is salvation outside the Church for infants it is concluded.
3. Since there is salvation outside the church, mission must not depend on saving souls from Hell but in showing them the beautiful face of Jesus.
One can expect contradictions in the bishop’s apologetic material
If you ask two questions (1) they see their whole house of cards crumble. So they don't answer.
The error has been passed on from Boston in the 1940's. The wrong interpretation can also be made of Vatican Council II - and it is being made by the bishop.
So the bishop seems the support the liberals because of the Richard Cushing error but on the issue of other religions opposed the Vatican Curia.
It may be mentioned that Archbishop Augustine Di Noia, Vice President of Ecclesia Dei has been quoted in the leftist media saying that the SSPX has to accept that Jews do not have to convert in the present time. This was also the public position of Cardinal Kurt Koch, the President of the Vatican Council for Christian Unity. They are contradicting Pope John Paul’s Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis, Vatican Council II (AG 7), Dominus Iesus 20, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and the Bible especially the Gospel of St. John. They are also contradicting Bishop Raffaelo Martinelli.
Since Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, S.J the Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican assumes the dead saved in invincible ignorance and with implicit desire are known to us they are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since these cases of ghosts are exceptions to the dogma he assumes the Notification is flawed, every non Catholic does not have to be objectively oriented into the Catholic Church. So for him John Paul II made a mistake.
Since there is salvation outside the Church because of the dead visible to him on earth he has formulated a ‘theology of religions’ and an ‘ecclesiology of communion’ as president of the International Theological Commision.So Jews do not have to convert in the present times as the pope and his Curia state, since there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church in the present times. This is irrationality from adults.-Lionel Andrades
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It is the responsibility of the CDF to clarify doctrine and the Faith and so they should answer the two questions for all to know
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/09/it-is-responsibility-of-cdf-to-clarify.html#links
Vatican-SSPX reconciliation is possible just by announcing that the baptism of desire does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/09/vatican-sspx-reconciliation-is-possible.html
NUMBER OF PRIESTS NOT ANSWERING THE TWO QUESTIONS INCREASES http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/number-of-priests-not-answering-two.html#links
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, these statements contradict one other.
Nebulous and misleading comment to say the least.
Anyone who is familiar at least with the documented evidence espoecially photographic knows perfectly clearly JP II was an anthropological phenomenologist and saw faith in relativistic terms since it formed part of the reality of consciosness making it an individualitic phenomenon. This is why he could embrace the Qu'ran; pay homage to a Bhuddist guru; claim the Jews did not need Christ for salvation as they still had a viable contract with God; he could concelebrate papal masses with dancers, bare-breasted indigenous women; have shamans perform various religious rites over him; pray in the synagogues of Satan and so on. His bequest is to leave the church missions in ruins and he has reduced the church to rubble through his theatrical personalised displays of ecumanical folly.
Pope benedict supports this by beatifying him and by following in his footsteps at Assisi.
Muller is only reinforcing the contemporary benedictine papal view. This is a continuation of the liberal modernist onslaught to weedle and cudgle The Confraternity into submission but Bishop Fellay has had his fingers burnt thankfully and will keep The Society out of this ruined and declining establishment. there is no need to worry what Muller states because the chief indicators of 2010 demonstrate all we need to know. Apostatsy has its costs in a church being destroyed by corruption;careerism; sexual perversion unchecked still and now financial irregularities of systemic proportions. This is what Mullwer represents and hae can have it as it is not Catholic anymore.
SSPX YOUR DOCTRINAL MIRACLE HAS COME THROUGH FROM OUR LADY
Your rosary bouquets and prayers have been answered.
Bishop Bernard Fellay had once said that it would take a miracle to reconcile the SSPX's doctrinal differences with the Vatican. He called for prayers.
Bishop Richard Williamson said it was impossible for the SSPX to reconcile its doctrinal differences with the Vatican.
The SSPX's prayers have been answered and Our Lady has intervened.
You will not have to ask any one for the right to criticize the Council. Vatican Council II can only be accepted as traditional.
-Lionel Andrades
Feast of Our Lady, Mother of God.
THE PREFECTS OF THE CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH WHO OVERLOOKED THE CLAIM OF THERE BEING KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/the-prefects-of-congregation-for.html#links
RECONCILIATION OF THE SOCIETY OF ST.PIUS X (SSPX) IS NOW POSSIBLE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/reconciliation-of-sspx-is-now-possible.html
ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE DID NOT POINT OUT THE VISIBLE-DEAD ERROR TO CARDINAL OTTAVIANI NEITHER DID THEY MAKE IT KNOWN
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/12/archbishop-lefebvre-did-not-point-out.html
THE PREFECTS OF THE CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH WHO OVERLOOKED THE CLAIM OF THERE BEING KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/the-prefects-of-congregation-for.html