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Thursday, October 19, 2017

Indulgence found with Luther's name on it.

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Interview with the museum director who found a letter of indulgence with Luther's name on it.

"A child of his time"
Martin Luther rejected indulgences in his later years. On a letter of indulgence, however, his name can be found. Museum director Vera Lüpkes found it. She explains to domradio.de what it has to do with the letter.

domradio.de : Did Martin Luther jauntily buy indulgences before he took the field against them?

Vera Lüpkes (Director of the Weser Renaissance Museum, Lemgo) : No, he did not buy them jauntily. He bought one. And this one was handed down to us in a copy of 1631. This copy is now available in the National Library in Madrid.

domradio.de : How does the name of Luther come onto the letter of indulgence?

Lüpke : It can be said that Martin Luther was a child of his time, that he was deeply rooted in the pre-Reformation Church. You have to remember the situation at the time. Martin Luther lived as a monk in Erfurt in the Augustinian Emeritus monastery. Erfurt belonged to the ecclesiastical province of Mainz. And in this church province, the indulgence preacher Johann Tetzel was able to preach. At the end of March 1508, Tetzel came to Erfurt and preached the indulgence there, among others in the Augustinian Lutheran monastery where Luther was brother.

domradio.de : So Martin Luther's name was with many other monastery brothers on the letter of indulgence you found?

Lüpke : Quite right. The Pope had decreed that for monasteries indulgences should no longer be written individually, but one for the entire monastery.

domradio.de : How did you find this letter?

Lüpkes : I have been interested in the system of indulgences, and I looked for the Tetzel letter of indulgence for the Augustinian Emeritus monastery and found it in the archives of the National Library in Madrid. On the letter was the name Martin Luder - as Luther called himself initially - together with the other Augustinian hermits.

domradio.de : This letter is now in Madrid and it will not be part of your new exhibition about Martin Luther and the Reformation, right?

Lüpke : No, we could not be loaned the letter. We have it as a copy in the catalogue of our exhibition "Open mouth!" displayed.

domradio.de : What can you tell us about this exhibition?

Lüpke : We are here in the Weser area. We therefore ask how Martin Luther's idea of ​​the Reformation came into the Weser area. On the one hand via the spoken word, on the other via printing and image - that is Bible printing and flyers. And very early on, the Hessian Count took the decision to make the Lutheran Reformation a state religion. That was already 1526. This can be seen in our exhibition with great pictures, interesting flyers and a very good Bible.

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Many Bishops not supporting Pro Pope Francis initiative

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Admitted in another interview with the organiser of the Pro Pope Francis Initiative.   See also Organiser of Pro Pope Francis letter hits out at critics of the Pope and Progressive Catholic "big-guns" attack Correctio Filialis.

Why the Pope now needs support

Over 160 bishops, theologians and other celebrities have now signed an open letter to Pope Francis. Katholisch.de spoke with the co-initiator of the initiative, Paul Zulehner, about lack of support in the Vatican and the (so far) silent majority of the church population.

"Conservative Catholics have recently criticized the Pope with a" childish Correction ". Now bishops, theologians, politicians and other celebrities respond. They defend Francis in an open letter, which is accessible on their website and can be signed by everyone. In the letter, the Pope is asked not to deviate from his previous course and to provide him with support. The co-initiator is the Viennese pastor theologian, Paul Zulehner. In this interview with Katholisch, he talks about the emergence of the initiative, about the correct approach to the critics of the Pope and the many people who are involved.


The Pope

Question: Mr. Zulehner, with all due respect: Does a Pontifex Maximus need the support of an initiative like yours at all?
The University Dean

Zulehner: Asztrik Várszegi, the archbishop of Pannonhalma, who is also a bishop, has told us that, of course, he is very sorry to say that such a thing is necessary. And I can already connect a little to this statement. On the other hand, we also know from the Pope himself that he loves the plurality and the open exchange of opinions and does not suppress them. And to this extent, this conflict, which we want, is quite creative for the life of the Church.

Question: Critics could still speak of a "poor testimony" that now a group has to come and "help" the head of the world church. What do you oppose?

Zulehner: I think that thus the Pope comes less into the firing line. It is also a matter of a fair discussion in the church people themselves, among the bishops, the theologians, the cardinals. And we are participating in this fair debate - with an open visor.

Question: One reads from your public letter that it is an answer to the "Dubia-Brief"and the last published “childish correction” . Behind it are rather smaller groups, but with the "loud scream". Do not these little groups get more attention by your action?

Zulehner: We had the impression that just these small groups were enjoying attention. The bishops are silent, and even in the media, little will be done in favour of the silent majority. And we want to bring this silent majority now. This is extremely successful. The support is overwhelming. We now have over 4,000 supporters and well over 160 signatories of the letter. And these are some very prominent people, such as former Bundestag president, Wolfgang Thierse or the former state president of Hungary, László Sólyom. There are new people around the world, such as Anselm Grün from Germany or David Steindl-Rast from the USA, the "gurus" of the world church.

Question: Why is the majority silent, even the bishops? Why do only a few critics make their voice heard?

Zulehner: It is remarkable that there is so much silence among the bishops. But it must also be noted that a considerable number of the bishops are from the time before Francis. The courageous path of the Pope does not seem to be quite certain for them. And then they just wait and see what happens. I also have responses from bishops and cardinals, who precisely signal this noble restraint, to our initiative. I do not share them, but one can understand their motives.

Question: You said "noble restraint". Are there not perhaps many who think like the critics, but do not dare to say anything?

Zulehner: There certainly is. It has already been seen in the Family Synod that there is an argument in this sensitive point of the admission of remarried divorced to the Sacraments. But this, as the Pope himself says, is a normal development. It takes a vanguard, which starts the development, there are brakemen and there is the big centre, which moves, if one can convince them. And now we want to convince church people.

Question: Were the "Dubia letter " and the "Correctio" legitimate paths of criticism or have the groups gone too far?

Zulehner: I do not want to judge that. I think they have thought of this and have reasons and arguments that may not be the right ones, but they must be heard from their point of view. I am a very peaceful and discreet conversation partner for such groups. And I believe - this is also a concern of the initiative - that the bridge building is needed between the different groups in the church. This could also be aroused by our open action. (Cathcon: calling your opponents childish is hardly going to get them around any table)

Question: The Pope is silent on the criticism of his person. Should he not better answer himself instead of letting other people like you "do it" for him?

Zulehner: I was busy with "Amoris laetitia" and wrote a book entitled "From the Law to the Face". And I agree with the Pope when he says, "Just read the text well." I have also discussed this with Cardinal Schönborn. Like me, he is of the opinion that it is theologically free of knots, which has been made in "Amoris laetitia". And I believe that the Pope is silent because he says, "People can read and understand, if they so wish, and if there are any doubts, this is to be discussed among the theologians but not in the public sphere."

Question: The composition of the signatories is varied. How was this group formed? Are you targeting people, including bishops and cardinals?

Zulehner: It was Tomas Halik, who had the idea of the initiative and persuaded me, to go along with him on this path. And he has a huge network in the Anglo-Saxon area, where he has won prominent people and will still win them. I will do this more intensively in Europe, but also in Asia such as Taiwan. We have really good contacts all over the world and look to hand-pick signers individually, while the supporters can register themselves directly on the homepage.

Question: Hand-picked means you have created lists of potential signatures in advance?

Zulehner: Yes, and we have written to the desired persons. Then it is like a snowball system, as we ask the people to promote our initiative in their own circle of contacts.

Question: From whom do you want to gain support?

Zulehner: For example, we are also trying to win support among the religious, and we have already General Superiors and Provincial Superiors. We want to have not only cardinals and bishops. They are welcome, but basically, it is an action of the thoughtful and committed people of God - this applies to the signatories as well as the supporters. It is intended to cover the entire range of the church, whereby we would like to make explicit the prominent figures of theology and politics and therefore list them. We would also like to get signatories from among the German bishops.

Question: And how did a man like Wolfgang Thierse get there?

Zulehner: This was presumably via the ZdK (organisation of the German Laity)and Professor Thomas Sternberg. We maintain intensive relations not least with the lay organizations and initiatives. Also ,the President of the Catholic Action Austria, Gerda Schaffelhofer, is among the signatories. We are targeting these people. It is, however, astonishing that we have also found an incredible acceptance among the absolutely serious top theologians- whether from America, Eastern Europe, Germany or Austria. "Finally," people say, "good luck!"

Question: What is your goal? How many supporters should there be?

Zulehner: I do not know what's going to happen. I am amazed at the moment, how fast this is now. That in a few days so much fire has be generated. That means: The ground was already very dry and ready to burn. How many of them will be at the end is probably not very important in detail. In any case, we will get incredibly many supporters. If it goes on like this, I count on over 10,000 people. And that cannot be overlooked in media terms. "Vatican Radio" has already reported it. Those in Rome have long since come to terms with what we are doing.

Question: What do you do with all the signatories at the end of the initiative?

Zulehner: In the end, we want to send this letter to the Pope, in which all the signatories and supporters are listed. And I think that his not always easy exercise of office will be supported . The Vatican journalist. Marco Politi says the Pope has too little support in the Vatican. So now he gets it from the outside, from us.

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Pope Benedict's favourite abbey and college distance themselves from the Correctio

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Cathcon note: the Cistercian Abbey of Heiligenkreuz has a very closely associated college, named after the Pope, in its grounds.
The College was opened during Pope Benedict's visit in 2007.



Heiligenkreuz distances itself from "Correctio"
Among the signatories of Pope Francis's public "Correction" is also a guest professor at the College of Heiligenkreuz. They have now distanced themselves from the philosopher.

The Heiligenkreuz College dissociates itself from one of its guest professors, who had signed a public "Correction" of the pope . He had signed in his own name. Nevertheless, this throws a shadow on the college, says the statement, which was published on the college's website. The sponsor of the Philosophical-Theological College Benedict XVI is the Cistercian Abbey of Heiligenkreuz.

Since its founding in 1802, it belonged to the core values of the Heiligenkreuz College, "to teach and act" inviolably "cum Petro et sub Petro". "We therefore make it clear that Heiligenkreuz College is closely connected to Roman Magisterium in all things, and we regard it as our greatest honour and our first duty to keep the faithful to Peter's successor, that is to say, our Holy Father Pope Francis", it says in the position statement. It is signed by the Abbot of Heiligenkreuz, Maximilian Heim, as well as the university rector, Father Karl Wallner.

Guest professor accuses Pope of "heresy"

The guest professor of philosophy, Thomas Stark, who is not mentioned by name in the statement of the university, together with other critics accuses Pope Francis in spreading heresies. This "Filial correction for the propagation of heresies" had been published on the Internet at the end of September. The authors argue that Francis had indirectly or directly represented a false doctrine of marriage, morals and the Eucharist, and urged him to publicly reject them. In addition to Stark, further laymen, clergy and theologians, among them the German author,Martin Mosebach, the Italian, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi , former President of the Vatican Bank and Bishop Bernard Fellay of the Society of St Pius X, who has seceded from Rome.

According to the Latin title, the "Correctio filialis de haeresibus propagatis" refers to the papal "Amoris Laetitia". Already in November 2016, four cardinals had sent a letter with five so-called "Dubia" (doubts) to Pope Francis and asked him for clarification.

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Inter-religious education replaces Catholic education in Austria

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The Kirchliche Pädagogische Hochschule (KPH) Vienna / Krems is an "open space for the coexistence of religions" is, according to the words of Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, . Austria's largest private educational college, in which seven Christian churches work together and which also cooperates with the free "churches" as well as the Muslim, Alevi and Israelite religious communities, being "no bastion one against the other." "The churches are concerned about the future of our country and education," the Viennese Archbishop said at a ceremony on the occasion of the 10th anniversary of the KPH on Wednesday afternoon at the University of Vienna-Strebersdorf.

My faith, your faith, no faith.  Our Country.

As the most important task of education, and thus also the goal of ecclesiastical teacher training, Schönborn described as the "promotion of responsible freedom" (Cathcon: the universal law of the Church is the salvation of the soul). The "passionate educator", Pope Francis has written about this in a programme form: "The prudence, the good judgment, and the reasonableness depend on a whole chain of elements that form a synthesis within the person, more precisely; in the centre of their freedom. " Education should promote "responsible liberties that choose with meaning and reason at decisive moments" and let people understand that "their life and that of their fellowship is in their hands, and that this freedom is an immeasurable gift," the Cardinal quoted the Papal Letter "Amoris laetitia" (Para. 262).

Schönborn also recalled the pre-history of the KPH Wien / Krems: As a result of a challenging Academies Study Act in 1999, the Catholic Bishops' Conference had taken a "courageous decision" with financial commitments for the church to remain in teacher training. Education is ultimately a "primordial element of the Jewish-Christian tradition" and "an essential part of what we understand by religion". Since 2007 the "ecumenically launched" KPH Wien / Krems has taken "an important place in teacher training" thanks to "excellent cooperation between the churches and the state".

"Role model for society and school"

The chairman of the university council, Andrea Pinz, described the KPH as the "response of the churches to one of the great challenges of our time", . The training centre was a "role model for society and school" by providing a meeting place for "learning in diversity". Graduates were "ready for the reality, which is as plural as the university itself" in the face of today's multi-ethnic composition of school classes. In this situation, "a sensitive treatment of religion as well as with ethical and social diversity" and also the knowledge of one's own background was important, emphasized Pinz.

Today the KPH Wien / Krems stands as a "strong, large facility" with an influence far beyond the confines of the religions and the country, according to the chairman of the university council. It was a "workshop for the future that draws from the past". Pinz announced that the churches would continue to work independently in the training of teachers.

Five hundred high-ranking guests from the worlds of religion, science and society took part in the ceremonial act at the Vienna-Strebersdorf university, including Cardinal Schönborn, St. Pölten, Bishop Klaus Küng and Bishop Conferences General Secretary, Peter Schipka, as well as the Lutheran Bishop, Michael Bünker, Paisios Jung, the president of the Muslim community, Ibrahim Olgun, Arie Folger, the Jewish Chief Rabbi and the Alevitian head of the school, Ertürk Maral.

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A video saves thousands of words as Marxists flee before Our Lord and Saviour

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1 Thesallonians 5
[5] For all you are the children of light, and children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 
omnes enim vos filii lucis estis, et filii diei : non sumus noctis, neque tenebrarum.


Marxists are children of darkness, par excellence