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Monday, July 16, 2012

SSPX - new head of CDF would have been investigated by the Holy Office

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Kirchen: Oberster Piusbruder kritisiert Erzbischof Müller - Nachrichten Newsticker - News3 (DAPD) - WELT ONLINE

The traditionalist SSPX goes on the offensive against the new supreme guardian of Catholic faith, Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller. Several theological texts of the new prefect of the Congregation were "highly questionable," said the Superior General of the SSPX, Bishop Bernard Fellay, in an interview published on Monday, that the traditionalists published on the Internet. The mission of the CDF was to fight heresy. Müller's texts would previously, without a doubt, have been "the subject of an intervention by the Holy Office, from which the CDF has emerged, which he heads today."

At the same time Fellay announced that the Vatican would "in a very short" time get the position of the SSPX on a possible reconciliation which had been agreed at the General Chapter of the traditionalists in the past week. "We insist on the preservation of our identity, which is the only effective means to help the Church to renew the Christian world," explained the superior general, without giving details.

The Fractured Face of Carmel on the Feast of Our Lady of Carmel

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The Fractured Face of Carmel

Brilliant article about the disastrous consequences for the Order of the post-Conciliar revolution.

The issues include faulty interpretation of the authentic spiritual patrimony for the Order, confusion of who had juridical competence to redact the legislative text, and resistance to the role of the nuns in the process of renewal. In addition, secrecy which haunted the Order early on also perpetuated the confusing and contradictory events which took place in the name of renewal for the nuns after Vatican 11. In the course of gathering data for the dissertation, 'Post-Conciliar renewal of the legislative texts for the Order of the Discalced Carmelite nuns of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Mount Cannel', a large number of people who provided primary sources and were interviewed asked that their names not be published. It was revealed that certain information was kept secret from the nuns over the years. It became evident that a good amount of erroneous information had been passed around about their attempted renewal, both written and verbal. To this day the mistrust among the members overrides much of the rhetoric of renewal that has been used in some cases to hinder renewal itself.

Before one can evaluate what went on in an event or learn from it, one must first have the truth, the relevant data and pertinent information. This is essential for the Discalced Carmelite nuns because faulty assumptions have formed faulty conclusions. The only way to evaluate the results of the renewal attempted by these nuns is to evaluate the renewal process within the light of truth. St Thérèse of the Child Jesus OCD, soon to be named Doctor of the Church, soughSt only the truth in a world that needs truth and nothing more. She says, close to the end of her life, 'I can nourish myself on nothing but the truth. . . Yes, it seems to me I never sought anything but the truth . . .

SSPX demands retraction from Spanish journalist

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In the meantime, the District Superior of Spain and Portugal, Father de Montagut denies Vidal's report and demands a correction. One more example of obviously harassing fire, constantly targeted, which inflame matters. This includes the media mood music in the German speaking area around Bishop Richard Williamson is one with which the SSPX indirectly to be moved into the area of ​​anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial. It is not difficult to recognize behind this intention the desire that the talks between Rome and to Econe should collapse . But it is still not gone that far. The General House itself has n now announced that each member of the General Chapter, was bound by an oath on the Bible to secrecy about the content and course of the Chapter Assembly. Any published information from journalists and on the internet regarding the General Chapter will therefore flatly denied, combined with a call not to place any self-created rumors into the wider world. This is a translation of the emboldened part of the article. The whole article translated here.

The SSPX General Chapter and its consequences, including how they voted on Bishop Williamson's exclusion

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[Update] Was wird die Piusbruderschaft Rom antworten? – Ein „Es war nett, doch nein danke“, kann es nicht gewesen sein › Katholisches

What answer will the SSPX give to Rome? - A "It was nice, but no thanks", it may not have been
Last Saturday, 14July, the General House of the SSPX shortly after 17 clock announced at the end of the General Chapter that it will send "general declaration to Rome" regarding the reconciliation talks with Rome which would be published.

About the substance of the General Chapter so far only a few details are known.  As the Swiss Catholic News Agency reported in Switzerland, the forbidding by Bishop Fellay of Bishop Richard Williamson from participating because of his "persistent disobedience" was confirmed by a large majority of the Order. Of 38 votes cast, 29 favoured the exclusion of Williamson with nine voting against. KIPA evaluates the vote as a significant strengthening of the position of Superior General and thus the efforts at reconciliation with Rome.

In this regard the Spanish progressive religious journalist, José Manuel Vidal wrote, referring to the Spanish superiors, that a reconciliation "definitely failed", since on the preamble sent from Rome on 13th of June to the SSPX was "unacceptable".

That a signature on the June preamble, which corresponds almost verbatim the preamble, as amended on September 2011, is probably impossible, Bishop Fellay had communicated to the then Prefect of the Congregation in Rome . As Vidal is the only one who dared to publish in these days, his message was picked up dozens of times by many journalists and blogs. It was said that on Sunday the declaration of the SSPX will be published. This is going to Rome to thank the Society for the discussions and the opportunity that was granted to her to explain her position, but at the same time would say a 'no' to reconciliation.

Pope Benedict XVI. visited yesterday, Sunday, the town of Frascati near Rome. The seat of the bishop is connected with the Cardinalate dignity of the Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone. The Pope wanted in the context of partially wild rumours about tensions within the Roman Curia, intrigue and the Vatileaks scandal, to give a signal of solidarity with Cardinal Bertone. In his homily, the Pontiff referred in a special way to the Second Vatican Council . This was certainly no coincidence on the same day on which the response of the SSPX was expected. The Pope thought that it was worth emphasizing that the council "much to say" and had asked for a renewed reading of the documents, but also in a "new" way. A request, which was directed at progressives apparently as much as traditionalists, to "discover" the Council in light of tradition. To illustrate this relationship, Pope Benedict XVI called at the same time for reading of the catechism.


Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that the SSPX will end the years of theological conversations and then three quarters of a year of reconciliation talks with a simple "It was nice, but no, thanks". Too much has happened since the 13th June, which seemed to take a negative turn.

Cardinal Levada is no longer Prefect of the Congregation. Pope Benedict XVI appointed Curial Archbishop Di Noia as Vice-President of Ecclesia Dei, and thus apparently removed from the new prefect of faith, the former Bishop of Regensburg Mueller working responsibilities that were previously undertaken by Cardinal Levada.


Di Noia let it be known immediately of willingness to talk widely, stated at the end of June that an agreement was within reach and mobilized "his" Dominican order shortly before the General Chapter of the SSPX to pray for reconciliation. According to Catholic riposte, the advocates of reconciliation with the SSPX are divided within the Vatican into two groups. The American Curial Archbishop Di Noia is a member of the "Gherardinians". They represent the line of Monsignor Brunero Gherardini's position that passages disputed between Rome and Econe in the documents of Vatican II can, of course. be discussed.  The theologians of the tradition can also open the discussion and conduct it in an open manner and if required the infallible magisterium eventually will resolve contentious issues. A solution "from below", so to speak, which takes for granted each natural development, as is characterised by the Church's history.

Against them the "Levadans" stand, named after the now retired Prefect of the CDF, seeking a solution "from above".They hold the disputed points of the council as untouchable, holding that the reality would be intolerable for the appearance of the church, if she were to have to admit that over a period of several decades an aberration was officially accepted.

Therefore, they try, to build over this possibly gaping vulnerability through an "acrobatic" ( Riposte Catholiquebridge) theory of continuity, burdening the whole question unnecessarily with the question of the binding nature and thus the question of the recognition of the entire council.

As the French website Riposte Catholique wrote that the negotiations since September 2011 obviously also hung up by the fact that they were conducted at a distance. There was no real negotiation discussions at which both sides were seated. Initially an informal but direct personal level was sought after an agreement rather than exchange of official documents. This personal dimension of the utmost importance to create a solid foundation of trust has been missing. This however does not mean that it cannot be recovered or to be imported into the talks. The appointment of Curial Archbishop Curia di Noia also appears in this regard to make a decisive change possible, which Pope Benedict XVI wanted, after the talks on 13 June resulted in something of a knot.

It should be pointed out that it is a personal meeting between Pope Benedict XVI and the Superior General of SSPX St. Pius X, Bishop Fellay that took place in the summer of 2005, a few months after the beginning of this pontificate, which made the gradual rapprochement between Rome and Econe possible, because it created confidence.

Perhaps another kind of direct intervention of Pope Benedict XVI necessary, as has already been seen in the appointment of Di Noia. For now, the "General Declaration" of the SSPX after the General Chapter is to be waited upon.

On another matter, and it is associated a different question: When will Pope Benedict XVI. again celebrate his first Mass in the Roman Rite in public?

Bishop Fellay gives his first interview after the SSPX General Chapter

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Doctrinal mutism is not answer to “silent apostasy”

Bishop Fellay: All ambiguity has now been resolved among us. Very soon we will convey to Rome the position of the Chapter, which has been the occasion to specify our road map insisting upon the conservation of our identity, the only efficacious means to help the Church to restore Christendom. As I told you recently, “if we want to make fruitful the treasure of Tradition for the benefit of souls, we must both speak and act” (cf. interview of 8 June 2012, DICI #256). We cannot keep silent when facing the rampant loss of faith, the staggering fall of the number of vocations, and the decrease of religious practice. We cannot refrain from speaking when confronted with the “silent apostasy” and its causes. Doctrinal mutism is not the answer to this “silent apostasy” which even John Paul II denounced already in 2003.

Cathcon- it look as if after this response is delivered, the personal intervention of the Pope will be required to resolve the reconciliation once and for all.  If he is unwilling or unable to do so, it will indeed be a bleak day for the Church and the Faith.

SSPX clarifies status of Bishop Williamson and announces imminent decision

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The Lefebvrist-bishop had been officially excluded from participation in the General Chapter of the Fraternity which took place last week

The British Holocaust-denier Richard Williamson remains a member of the Lefebvrist SSPX (Cathcon- by definition the SSPX is Lefebvrist!) . Also, there is no change to his status as a bishop said SSPX spokesman , Alain Lorans, upon request on Monday in Paris. At the same time Lorans confirmed that Williamson had been officially excluded from participation in the General Chapter of the Community which took place last week. This measure is only "selective" and has no influence on Williamson's status in the SSPX, according to Lorans. The 72-year-old Williamson had whose doubts expressed in 2009 about the existence of gas chambers provoked an uproar and strained relations between the Society, which is separated from Rome and the Vatican.

The "Fraternity of St. Pius X." has after a week of deliberations in the Swiss town of Econe weekend announced that "soon" "a general declaration to Rome" will be published. The meeting discussed the question of whether to sign a "Doctrinal Statement." presented to the SSPX by the Vatican. This is a prerequisite for a possible reconciliation with Rome. In advance of the General Chapter, the different positions of the bishops of the Fraternity had diverged significantly.

Official announcement from SSPX delayed

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"La Iglesia oficial languidece, ha abandonado la doctrina de Cristo" :: España :: Religión Digital

"The official Church languishes, having abandoned the doctrine of Christ" The Fraternity of Saint Pius X avoids making an its new official break with Rome to meet the deadlines

"The official Church is languishing, having abandoned the doctrine of Christ, vying to be a partner of the atheistic world". Father Izaguirre, priest of the Fraternity of Saint Pius X, directs the Eucharist that this Sunday has been held in the parish which holds his congregation , along the avenue of Barcelona, in Madrid.

A very frequented Mass -more than a hundred people, well-dressed men, the women with a small scarf on the head-, which complied with all the canons of orthodoxy. The celebration with their back to the people, the hymns and prayers in latin - with the exception of the readings and homily-, the consecration steeped in mysticism and the Communion on knees and in absolute silence.

Nor was there, as had been expected, an official statement announcing the "no" of the Lefevbrists to the latest proposal of Rome. At the meeting of the previous day, they said it was to be announced, but in the end, confirmed by members of the congregation, they opted to wait until the Holy See receives the response and the superior of the congregation, Bernard Fellay, speaks in public.

A homily was given, charged with intent, in which the Father Izaguirre denounced the "false prophets" that, on behalf of the official Church, promoted "a doctrine that does not belong to Christ" and that "surround us everywhere". "In our time, there is a persecution of voices from the inside of the Church". A few voices, "within the highest hierarchies, which argue for opposite doctrines to those of the perennial doctrine of the Church".

"In Conciliar crisis, which is most grave, even more so than the two World Wars - continued Father Izaguirre-, the crisis of the Church affects all estates and their own doctrine". At this point, the priest justified the work of their founder, Marcel Lefebvre, to whom "God suggested that he should create the SSPX, as the tree of the Lord, to bring forth firm fruit". The current world for the Lefebvrists is "a time of crisis, of purification", in which the Roman Church " has put herself forward as a partner of the atheistic world".

A statement of intent rejecting the "no" to the acceptance of the Second Vatican Council, was a prerequisite for the SSPX to return to Rome and end the last great schism of the Catholic Church.

Cathcon- Bishop Fellay is expected to give an interview to the SSPX press agency Dici on Wednesday.