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Friday, November 30, 2007

Muslims dance in a Catholic Church

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from the ever wonderful kreuz.net

Recently dervishes have been whirling in the nave of a very well-known Viennese church. The parish priest saw it as an expression of hope and unity.

On Wednesday evening, Muslims were dancing in the Votive Church on the Vienna ring road. The Turkish Embassy publicised the event in a press release.

The spectacle is called the Mevlevi Sema ceremony.

The occasion was the 800th Birthday of the Persian-Islamic mystic Mevlana Celâleddin-i Rûmi († 1273). Rûmi is the founder of the Moorish Dervish Order.

Dervishes seek through asceticism, meditation and ritual dances to gain a pure soul.


The Vienna City Dean, the Right Revd Martin Rupprecht was enthusiastic about the event. The priest is committed to inter-religious dialogue. He also has studied for a year in Turkey.
(Draw your own conclusions, from the way he dresses about how commited he is to the priesthood and how committed to Muhammedism!)

For the Revd Rupprecht, it was "something very special", that he could welcome the Islamic group to his church. It was good to see that Muslims "experience spirituality" in a Catholic church.
This is for the priest is an expression of hope and unity.

The hypnotic-dance

The dancers were members of the Dervish Order especially invited from Turkey. Around 300 guests followed the presentation in the church.

The Turkish Ambassador to Vienna, Selim Yenel, gave the welcoming speech. He called the event "very special". He particularly praised "this environment".

Dervish founder, Rumi always preached tolerance of others. The word intolerance was not part of his vocabulary - according to the ambassador.

The symbolism of the dance.

The Dervishes dance in circular movements, that can last up to 45 minutes, in a trance. Each ceremony is led by a sheik.

At the beginning, the dervishes wear a red coat, which symbolizes "the centre of the earth".

They wear a red hat, like a tombstone and black capes, which are also connected to the memory of a grave.

During the prayer dance, the garments of the dervishes rise up.

They rotate in a circle, with the top right hand stretched up to receive the blessing of God.

The left points down to distribute the blessing received to the world.


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Extraordinary clothes and ritual dancing are not unknown in this Church.

The Parish Priest with a new mini-stealth priestess followed by dancers during the Long Night of the Churches.


Just unacceptable

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as Cardinal's former aide attacks the Vatican.

See comment 3

When anyone joins the Catholic Church, the general idea is to leave your past life behind you or it is not a conversion in the proper sense. Blair is trying to spin his way in. Pity for him Campbell is not a Catholic, he would have been less blatent but would have spun on behalf of his master all the same.

For Blair's part, he should realise that entering the Catholic Church is not like getting a political agreement. You cannot make your own terms with the Catholic Church. That is Her glory.

If the Cardinal thinks he can accept Blair into the Catholic Church in some secret ceremony in his private chapel, without a public recantation of his known position on abortion, he has another think coming.

The Catholic clergy and laity do not lack the courage to speak clearly on moral issues and they will. The cries of their outrage will be the last sounds the Cardinal hears as he departs his office.

The things they say about Cathcon

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"Warning: this report contains photos featuring a mime. Do not view if you have a pacemaker or a weak stomach. "

Cathcon spoke too soon

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As Karl Marx was an enemy of humanity, Bishop Marx is an enemy of the old Mass.

At least, until February 2007. As he is a "neo-Conservative" all that might have changed with the release of the Motu Proprio.

O Lord, give the world more traditionalists.

With them you know exactly where you stand.